Claw machine is awful.

Igor

MrJoe it doesnt matter if the game is free or not. you dont have to buy those skins to continue playing the game. this is additional content, that the developers worked on. and they need to be payed salaries each month for their work.

seriously, each time we have a new event, we see people complaining they dont get everything for free. no one is obliged to give you any additional content for free. even the CEO explained you, that they need to make money somehow, yet you still continue

MrJoe

I don't expect to get everything for free, and I'm not ungrateful.
This is one of the best games I've played, and I'm constantly blown away by the new content and features the developers create. I'd happily pay more money for the game to support the devs if they needed it. It's much better than most games.
That being said, I don't think it's "ungrateful" to tell the devs how they can improve when they release something that primarily favors older, richer players who've been playing for a long time. The least they could do was be more honest about how the claw machine works.

But you're right, I haven't played any Chinese games, so maybe I am expecting a bit too much.

Igor

GrannyMax Of course, everyone would ideally want us to give away all our meticulously crafted skins or content for free upon release. But when the entire development team needs to be paid salaries and rent, how long can we afford to do this?Compare the update frequency and content of any game within six months after a $20 release, and you'll see just how much we have done.

Thunderbird7047

MrJoe bro it's not gambling, look up the definition of gambling, "the activity of playing games of chance for money" it's a matter of skill, you need to coordinate the claw, you have a skill issue.

MrJoe

Thunderbird7047

This isn't literal gambling, but it comes fairly close in principle. If you watched the video, you'd see that a decent amount of those claw pulls were quite accurate, and only failed when they were very close to winning.

varunaX

Thunderbird7047 if you are correct and it's based on skill, can you please explain to me the logic behind this why this successfull grab failed? For context, this was the 3rd attempt, thus skill was used in order to perfectly lineup the claw here

Igor

MrJoe read again: you are guaranteed to get a character within 7 attempts, even if we assume it's "rigged" and bugged. that's just 840 nemo bucks, couldnt be any cheaper. there could be no claw machine and they would sell those skins for 5 dollars each just like cabbage dog. this would be 40 dollars for all skins, yet you can get it all for free. and if you dont play regularly, you can still reduce the price by completing pass + nemo bucks you will receive from level rewards. there is still 34 days. so please, if you want to whine like a child, you can do it with other idiots on discord. claw machine is fun

MrJoe

Igor

Alright, that's fair. The concept of the machine is pretty fun, and I guess you're right that it could be a lot worse. At the very least, the devs could provide more information about how it works.

Igor

but also you dont need all these characters, chose a few you like and you should spend no real money. obviously if you want to get everything, you will be running low on nemo bucks

Igor

MrJoe this i agree on. it's necessary to write the chance of getting rewards

theoldmonk

Igor Stating the odds/chance explicitly (as the egg coin machine does) is the only thing that the claw machine needs. It looks "weird" until you catch the pattern. People saying that this is forcing players to spend money are out of line.

Igor

also there are two categories for characters, if you noticed

could it be that "2nd prize characters" are easier to catch? you can look at videos people post to see if this may be the case

theoldmonk

Igor I have not checked the videos, but from playing yesterday, I saw a lot of first price characters, namely the chicken and lotus. My first succesful grab was the Lime Chinchilla. I will observe this a bit on the videos.

Igor

theoldmonk i've just analyzed a video from a person i know. read here:
https://forum.partyanimals.com/d/2960-ban-this-person-on-the-forum/7507

as for character categories, it could be that second grade characters are more likely to wake up if you miss all your tries

Igor

i'll be recording my own videos, but it will be slower, because i will only use pass coins

Electram

It is not gambling but I think FOMO plays a significant role in claw/coin machines, and it can be quite addictive.
This leads to impulsive pulls in hopes of striking it lucky, but often results in a cycle of disappointment and money depletion. Once you start, it feels impossible to stop and developers is aware of that strategy… they know how to capitalize on that, benefiting from that cycle.

Chubby

Electram Hmm, maybe that's true. My top 3 favorite from these fairy fruit animals the lemon chinchilla, the persimmon fox and the coconut chicken. I hope i will get at least 1 of these animals.

Igor

to be clear with you: it's "around 7 times", not always 7. from watching other people play, it seems like the last remaining characters take 8 and 9 for the last one. but also some people reported it can be 6. and it seems that on 7th try maybe the claws have tighter grip. still this doesnt affect the price too much and all characters will still be very cheap

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1smfdYsEBo/

Electram

Chubby
I hope you can get them! My favorite is Lotus root, but I'm not planning to use my nemo bucks to buy it. Honestly, it doesn't seem worth the hassle.

Igor

please also dont forget about 2200 nemo bucks new levels give you and another 500 you can purchase just for one dollar from login rewards. 2700 nemo bucks with 20 free coins should be enough to get all 8 characters.

i didnt see anyone say thank you to developers for that, or for new game mode, or for 5 new characters, 3 new skin and everything else you get for free. it is very rude of you to complain about anything now

Chubby

Electram I see, i like the lotus pink animal too. Good luck (maybe with silver coins you will try sometimes)! I could get the persimmon fox, i like it. After that as i followed, played in the event, i got 2-3 silver coins from the event, i used them to grab other few fruit animals, but i couldn't, they slided down out from the claws.

Monke123

Igor Woah ungrateful? he's mad because the animal clips out Igor please relax

MrJoe

Monke123

Before, yes. I need to be better about communicating my gratitude to the developers (for all the OTHER great stuff they've made). But I think part of the problem is that the devs failed to provide more information about this machine, as there is a decent amount of chance involved.
I believe what's tripped a lot of players (including me) up is that they didn't realize that there's some amount of RNG that decides if you actually get the animal, even if you grab it perfectly. (the supposed invisible wall)
I do wish they had found some kind of more...honest way of profiting, but to be fair they have put a lot of time and effort into a fairly cheap game, so they need to make more money somehow.

Igor but how good you grab only plays a certain role, because there is a chance factor to the game, so even if you grab perfectly, the game can still drop the character, if it was decided you are supposed to lose