vietnam123s

We are developing a new feature to adjust the XP acquisition ratio, specifically to enhance the transfer of experience to the Battle Pass in quick matches and custom games. However, the reason we are doing this is to prevent idling and XP farming. This behavior is unfair to both regular players and our developers.

The development team needs funding to continue operations, so we rely on payments from players who are unwilling to invest time. At the same time, we also want to reward those who do invest their time properly.

However, many people use scripts to idle and obtain these rewards, which is something we do not want to see.

That's why we design most rewards to come from completing tasks, rather than from idle-gained experience.

Of course, everyone would ideally want us to give away all our meticulously crafted skins or content for free upon release. But when the entire development team needs to be paid salaries and rent, how long can we afford to do this?Compare the update frequency and content of any game within six months after a $20 release, and you'll see just how much we have done.

      GrannyMax

      GrannyMax

      I understand. Then the very best and actually very easy way to fix all this is by adding more missions instead of just 4 per day which give MUCH more XP ?

          And to reward people who actually play and love the game, who keep the community alive and thriving - they should get a daily guaranteed 100 nemo bucks by completing a single much more difficult mission. That would be nice and fair to all.

          GrannyMax Then give console players more xp. There are no scripts.
          Why do console players have to be punished when PC cheats?

          Also ball based games as a task if it is only voted for once every 10 games?
          And leaving brings punishment

          Weekly tasks for the other pass, more daily changing tasks.
          It doesn't offer enough for active games. It's only worth 0,5-1hour a day. because you can't unlock more in this time

            artinunicorn

            Nobody wants that. Get outta here with that horrendous idea.

            This is literally a Battle Pass but for free. How can you go and ask for it to be changed to a payed Battle Pass xd.
            Makes 0 sense.

            We are only asking for the Battle Pass to be actually treated as such - a Free Battle Pass that everybody who plays enough can actually unlock it all. Currently it does not seem possible at all.

            Today I played 3 hours and completed every mission and only got 1,2 bars of XP. It is giving less and less XP and this is on a double XP weekend. Absolutely ridiculous.

                vietnam123s we who? we are having fun completing challenges and wondering where the developers get money to continue bring us more content. the boss already explained you that they cant just give it to you, yet you still keep going. the previous battle pass was as easy as it gets yet people still complained. it doesn't go through their minds that if it's free, you cant complain

                  vietnam123s every other games have 2 kind of Events pass , like clash of clans , League of legends, Fortnite , etc .

                  you still get some good free rewards and you can unlocking paid rewards with purchasing battle pass

                    I cant believe that people like you exist. You are the very reason we get early access bad unfinished games with tons of microtransactions.

                    I was in that case not referring to PA, just in general with games nowadays.

                    There is a great difference between making a game free to play (from the start) and then offering Microtransactions, and charging 20 bucks and then adding Microtransactions as well. I was under the impression recreate games had a huge success with the copies sold and landing a deal with xbox. I mean its the first game the studio released and it definitely made them a ton of money no doubt. Makes me think they shoulda not included Microtransactions in the first place.

                    Im surely not the first player to write with this view on things. There are hundreds on steam, reddit etc. that share that view.

                    More importantly, you are missing the point - which is that the MasterPass XP rates are a lot worse when compared to the LotusPass, which was a grind as well but more than achievable. MasterPass does not seem achievable at all and gives so much less XP than LotusPass. That was my gripe with the game currently.

                    I am playing everyday and more than 2 hours definitely.
                    Will see after it ends I guess if the MasterPass XP was actually fair and balanced or not.

                    Keep in mind that I complain, share Feedback & Bugs etc. only because I really enjoy the game and want it to shine in the brightest light.

                      vietnam123s
                      Please find a game similar to PA that offers comparable quality for $20. Or a game where the same amount of gameplay time can earn all in-game items. Note that PA has no pay-to-win elements; even skins are free as long as players invest time. Xbox's revenue can't even cover our studio's salaries for a few months, so how can we ensure updates? Also, I'd like to ask why those $20 products either have very low update frequencies or require paid DLC for updates. Is this what you expect?

                          Byungsun The way I read it. Little XP is intentionally chosen for the passes, so that people buy the levels.

                          You can’t spend a lot of time per day. From level 100 onwards only 3 levels. then you won't get any reward anymore.
                          And the daily tasks are also completed quickly

                            GrannyMax League of legends is not pay to win and it's free , so how they cover all this salaries and more , because they have a good monetization, they have regular event pass ( free and paid together) , also loot box and more , and they only sell skins , it's literally mostly skins , but you can buy any skin you want , right now PA shop has a very bad design, I'm just saying, if you just copy and implement Lol or clash of clans or fortnite monetization, everything is gonna solved and we all would be happy , Please consider my message, i just want this game to be better and you and us be more happier, that's all

                                GrannyMax

                                And who exactly wished for paid DLC?

                                I hope you actually read the messages here. It is clear as day the way XP and Level Cap is set in place is to very hardly push buying Nemo Bucks with real money.

                                Here is the thing: It is understandable to have them so the game receives continues support and development (which is really great and people definitely appreciate it, dont act like we dont)... but then make it so people who dont have the time to play a lot, are not as skilled or just plainly wanna skip all the grind, can buy the nemo bucks and tier skips etc. .

                                But let the other part of your community, those who really put time and effort into the game, to receive Nemo Bucks as well without a hard daily restriction. Is that really too much to ask? The chances of getting Nemo Bucks out of the 3 daily boxes are extremely low. It is averaging around 12 boxes to receive a Box of Nemo Bucks. I play since release (and almost every day!) and have over 200 hours in the game, yet im not too close to getting all the skins I want.

                                Also the current XP situation is why we have afk farmers (I see one every 5th game, most notably a asian name account) or lots of leavers (for example: when the todays mission was to play and win a ball match and the map was a last stand map so they leave and queue again).

                                Simple way to fix it or greatly increase the amount of afk'ers is to do the same that we have for the normal XP for the Level Ups. When you win, you receive MUCH more XP then a game you lose. Could do the same for the MasterPass XP, so that people actually aim for winning the game.

                                For example:

                                Buff the XP ratio for MasterPass to approximately 200XP per won game.
                                And reduce lost game XP to a max. of 50XP.

                                Encourages playing the game and going for the win, instead of opting for afking.
                                "Microtransactions Problem" would also be fixed by either by removing the daily 3 boxes restriction or adding a guaranteed weekly 500 Nemo Bucks Mission (a hard challenge so maybe 10% of player actually achieve it).

                                Thoughts on this?

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                                    artinunicorn

                                    I dont get your point. If im understanding it correctly, then you have a absolutely horrendously bad idea, but only if I understand correctly.

                                    Please clarify how what we have now is not miles better than the stupid stuff they have in League or Fortnite?

                                    Im at Loss of word how you can even type that. It makes me thing GrannyMax went ahead and made a alternative account just to type that to himself to prove his point lol, its that bad. Please dont type that ever again for any game 😃 (unless you like losing 1000 of dollars for cute anime girl skins on your mobile phone).

                                    @GrannyMax please dont listen to arti's comment, since this vision is not what the absolute majority of people represent or want.

                                        vietnam123s my comments are based of long studies and researches I've done in my area .

                                        There is a very valid reason behind it and that's why all other games implemented it and didn't changed it over decades. It is beneficial for both user and the developers. You get what you want and they get what they need . If they continue the shop like this ,soon they gonna broke and they game would shut down for good

                                          GrannyMax It's clear that party animals is a passion project for the devs, just look at paws and smash, but it's inevitable that there will be a gap between the market need and the devs' passion. Straightforwardly, the devs don't have enough money? Make a paid pass. It's not good for everyone if you annoy users with a free pass that gives a little exp.

                                              You guys could not be more wrong. The day a paid BattlePass or DLC happens im gonna abandon ship right away. Terrible idea.

                                              You wanna help the devs? Paypal them your money. But dont ruin the game for others.