Very slow EXP gain

Sotcliff

So, screw the casual players, right?

Now tell me, how many hours did you play per day to gain 3 levels? Can you give me your entire schedule, please?

Limto

Sotcliff When did I say that, I only really play for hour and a half a day. I am a casual player. When I was trying to reach level 100 I only got maybe 1 or 2 a day. I don’t grind this game every day for levels. I only play it for the love of the game. Honestly just try to not think about the levels because it really doesn’t have a benefit besides Nemo bucks and cookies. P.S. When I was saying that I get 3 levels a day is when your past 150, it gets much easier once your past it.

Limto

Sotcliff Now I will admit it was extremely hard to level up during the 80-100 levels. But it gave me something to work towards.

Sotcliff

M4Y4D3R3
He said it and said nothing.

It's really ugly for a player to feel so bad for a company like that.
When I humbly ask the developers to adjust the EXP rate, tell me, buddy, how does that affect you? How does it hurt you? Will making the game easier for people hurt your ego? Just because you wasted half your life playing this, do you think you're superior to everyone else? Do you think everyone should go through the same shit you do?

As I said up there, it's beautiful to see from the top of the pyramid and tell those below,
"Just climb, just try hard."
It's pathetic, it's elitist, it's selfish, it's egocentric.

You're not better than anyone, buddy. I'm here asking for changes because the game is extremely difficult to level up. It's absurd how difficult it is to get just one measly level in a day. So I ask you, who is this game for? You say the target audience is people a decade younger than me. Worse still, do you think it's right to manipulate children like this?

And man, don't try to write in Portuguese. Your translation is horrible. You insult my beautiful language with so many mistakes. It's better to write in your native language, which I understand perfectly well. This just shows how ill-prepared you are.

None of you are game staff; you're just players with inflated egos who want to expel any inclusion that wants to enter your dusty little world.

That said, I'll reiterate that the game NEEDS a tweak to improve daily XP gains, so casual players can log in, play the day's matches, and then log out, feeling a thousand times better than they currently do.

If such a simple request hurts you, leave this thread and go back to your little digital game where you pathetically think you're the best.

ToastySTENCH

M4Y4D3R3 That was very well said and I'm disappointed and honestly suprised that didn't make him budge.

Sotcliff

You mentioned you have a child that plays this game, right?

So tell me this, as a fellow older adult. For the record I'm born in '96. Don't you remember games on our Playstation 1, 2 Xbox and Nintendo how HARD these games were to beat? Even Tony Hawk Pro Skater games, it took a long time to fully complete the game.

Now in contrast, I remember when catering and soft culture came in, I was playing a new Spongebob game on release, I can't remember the name. I spent $60 on this game and I literally beat it in about 3 or so hours.

Now in my personal opinion, what do i want? A game that i spent money on to entertain me and have a goal that's further to reach? Or a game that I can achieve what I want in an evening and lose incentive to keep playing?

Also a side note. I work for 2 weeks straight, 10 hour days, I only get a week off that includes days where I have to fly home and back to work - plus my wife lives in another country so those days off also include international travel on a seperate work travel day - PLUS I still need to spend time with my wife since I havent seen her in weeks. In fact, next 2 days I cant play since i have to travel internationally today, and travel to work the day after. Yet I STILL don't complain and I'm sure your child's schedule is not busier than mine, that would be absurd.

You view this as catering to the developers. But maybe you've just been playing too many spongebob games. A far goal like this is classic and desirable to have the biggest bang for your buck - plus it isnt even as difficult as you say. Since I have an incredibly busy schedule but still make it work.

Too many people in this world are fantasized with the end result and never the grind to get there. Such as fitness, getting rich, etc. You know this as a fellow adult. Nobody wants to put in the work to get what they want. Except this goal (capybara) is actually enjoyable! Sweating at the gym every day isn't, working long hours or having multiple failed business isnt fun either. Playing numerous game modes with your friends and laughing along the way, IS fun to get to your goal. Plus you literally paid money for this. Don't you want your child to be entertained for as long as possible with the money you spent buying this game?

Again, I'm insanely busy and I make it work so, so can you.

M4Y4D3R3

Sotcliff

Sotcliff As I said up there, it's beautiful to see from the top of the pyramid and tell those below,
"Just climb, just try hard."
It's pathetic, it's elitist, it's selfish, it's egocentric.

You're not better than anyone, buddy. I'm here asking for changes because the game is extremely difficult to level up. It's absurd how difficult it is to get just one measly level in a day. So I ask you, who is this game for? You say the target audience is people a decade younger than me. Worse still, do you think it's right to manipulate children like this?

Lmao. Like seriously, It's funny. Really funny when a grown man is saying i'm a manipulative, elitist, selfish bastard because I made a point. I'm trying so hard to not literally lose it right now because of the fact that suddenly I'M in the wrong because of a child's game with slow progression.
Again, when did I say I was better than anyone?
Again, when did you give me a real answer?
Never, never never.
You act like I'm some disgusting gremlin grinder, disrespectful, no empathy, and just selfish.
If I was, I would've been a lot ruder.

Sotcliff If such a simple request hurts you, leave this thread and go back to your little digital game where you pathetically think you're the best.

the "inflated ego" part is so ironic it's not even funny anymore.

Sotcliff I challenge any of you to PROVE that I am wrong in my arguments,

Sotcliff That said, I repeat, PROVE ME WRONG.

Sotcliff If you don't have an opinion that complements what I'm saying, or don't have the sensitivity to understand my point of view, please keep your opinion to yourself, because it's not contributing anything, and it's embarrassing yourself.

Should I keep quoting you? Should I keep debunking every little thing you say about me because I don't agree with your point? I'd much rather be playing my dusty little game with my dusty little friends than be arguing with whatever you have to say about me. Even a person like cheesypoofs, absurd as it may seem, is kinder and more empathetic than this.

whatever the hell this is actually

Sotcliff And man, don't try to write in Portuguese. Your translation is horrible. You insult my beautiful language with so many mistakes. It's better to write in your native language, which I understand perfectly well. This just shows how ill-prepared you are.

Then maybe I should write in german? you should be able to understand without using a translator. I'd like to see how many mistakes you'd make then. You don't even consider what you can't do, only what you can.
I was offended at first, but then I reread slowly this time and realized you just admitted you think so damn highly of yourself you don't even take notice of the fact that you've completely veered off the topic. Is this entertaining to you? do you feel as if you can scream a million things about me over a simple answer? you can't seem to take one. I'm going to keep quoting you until you finally realize how much of a NARC you sound like right now.

Sotcliff That said, I'll reiterate that the game NEEDS a tweak to improve daily XP gains, so casual players can log in, play the day's matches, and then log out, feeling a thousand times better than they currently do.

And not once has a single person, except you, on this international, free, and including forum complained about that.
You do not speak for them.
AHEM. I mean us. Don't know what's hard about that. I'm automatically your enemy because I made a paragraph or two about how you should consider how games don't take up all of your time? that you can complete them when you want?
All of my words are being twisted into something. I could say "I like this game" and then you'd accuse me of kissing up to a company. I'd love to hear the words "ill prepared" fly out of your fingers, hitting that keyboard, and popping into my screen again so I can call you out on whatever you say next. You and me say any of this on the discord and we're both perma-banned.

Sotcliff When I humbly ask the developers to adjust the EXP rate, tell me, buddy, how does that affect you? How does it hurt you?

As some wise guy I don't remember said,

"It doesn't have to hurt me to involve me"

You should live by that. Or maybe you already do. maybe you're living by all those "mistakes" that you just called me out on and refusing to admit it. I'm going to say it one last time, this is a public forum. i'll reply and be sure to tell you how what you're doing IS quite literally selfish. The people who worked for the capybara skin join the game one day to find out the task has been made a million times easier and everyone has it now. Another funny thing, why only her? why not lamar? because you're only focused on that. It's not for everyone, it's for you. You wouldn't care if the nemo skin wasn't available as easily as long as you didn't like it.

Hmm..? I wonder who's done that before?

Also your "just climb, try hard" quote is backfiring too because that's how literally everyone else got up to the top. They worked hard, and you're just suggesting to use an elevator or something. A game is supposed to make you work hard.

Sotcliff elitist

Man you must love that word so much.
Must I remind you you have all the time in the world and are forcing yourself to hop on this forum and insult your peers?

Sotcliff Sorry, champ, that kind of excuse is the most pathetic one can make, it's embarrassing.

I'd rather make an excuse than be like you. give us a response, an actual one that isn't just weakly defending yourself.

gah.
One more thing,

Sotcliff expel any inclusion that wants to enter your dusty little world.

Funny. really funny. refer to post 1, sentence 12. Ironic.

Sotcliff

Limto

Do you have any advice on which game mode is most efficient for leveling? Quick Match, Custom? Survival? Conquest?

Limto

Sotcliff You can also do four players on a team so it’s 4v4 if you invite three people and it makes it a lot more easier to win in my opinion

Limto

Sotcliff I can add you if you want and we can play some matches.

vile_Terrier

Sotcliff
I think I saw somewhere that they level up when creating a game, to be the last one standing, against an AI, with 1% HP, you defeat it and continue doing it. And just like that you got the achievement of knocking out others without being knocked out during the photo.
Me parece que en algún lado vi que subían de nivel en crear partida, en ultimo en pie, contra una AI, con HP 1%, lo derrotas y continuas haciéndolo. Y justo así conseguías el logro de noquear a los demás sin que te noquearan durante la foto.

But this isn't as fun as playing against other people.
Pero esto no es tan divertido como jugar contra otras personas.

Limto

Smash and classic give a lot and it also depends heavily if you win or not.

Limto

vile_Terrier Yeah I’ve heard of that method. I sometimes do it when I’m extremely close to leveling up and I don’t feel like doing another quick match😂

Sotcliff

vile_Terrier

Great video, but it's sad to have to do procedures like this to be able to gain a little more worthy exp

Limto

ToastySTENCH Well said😁

Cartrimino

ToastySTENCH this is why I like Kirby games. Sure, it starts out pretty easy, but it quickly evolves into a challenge for only the best players.

ToastySTENCH

Limto Right? Another example is the prestige mode in Call Of Duty. I haven't played COD in over a decade. But back in the Modern Warfare games I remember absolutely loving the idea of restarting my progress and doing it again. In the previous COD games before this, I felt a loss of interest to keep playing when I had nothing else to unlock. Prestige added a whole new layer of progress that made the game increase its replayability by a long shot.

Maybe that's why I am the way I am with progress. Because I grew up poor and wouldn't get new games often as a kid. So the more progress and grind there was to a game while still maintaining its fun aspect, was HUGE for me. When I bought that spongebob game, I bought it with my first ever job over ten years ago and was incredibly bummed that I spent like a quarter of my paycheque on a game I beat in a few hours.

Maybe OP's child has been showered in games like that spongebob game I played. Maybe they're not used to having a game with this much replayability and content. Perhaps they're used to unlocking what they want very fast.

Now I could see the argument of maybe having, instead of set characters at a level, having the ability to look at the roster and picking the base character animal of their choosing to unlock. That's something I could consider supporting. But these animals at the set levels represent a "prestige". It makes the player feel acknowledged in their effort to reach that goal. Its their final goal, similar to being finally fit from exercise, or having a successful business in the analogies i mentioned in my prior comment. So it kind of loses its charm if that proposed system were to be put in place. But if enough people hopped on board and voiced their support, maybe it could be considered.

OP, if what i just mentioned peaks your interest. I would highly encourage making a new post with the intention of being a "petition". Present your ideas neatly and with thought into how it would work. You're Portuguese, so with the high number of Brazilian players I can only assume you're part of that community. Voice your petition to your community on their discord server for example, forward them to your petition, and make change.

Everyone else, I encourage that if he does make this petition, we don't bombard his post with complaints against it. OP, please put in your post to only reply in support or not at all, we can have THIS thread for challenging your petition.

I'll be hesitant, but i may approve of the petition, because I feel it still gives incentive to unlock all the animals, albeit it kind of takes away a representation on your efforts to unlock certain characters. If I see it has a lot of traction, I'll likely hop on board in respect to you and the others, as long as it retains that incentive to play a lot to unlock everything.

Limto

ToastySTENCH I even offered to run some games with him to help him level up some, but he hasn’t responded😖😆

Cartrimino

Limto Nah who would take the easy solution over insulting people with reasonable arguments?

Sotcliff

Limto

I really appreciate your invitation, my friend, but I don't want to. With all due respect, it doesn't help me at all.

Sotcliff

M4Y4D3R3
While everyone else is trying to show me realistic and rational solutions, I can only see you getting all offended. In fact, I think I've hit your ego right in the feels.

Well, buddy, it's not just about Capybara. You're all taking this as a crusade against Capybara Barbara, even though I explicitly state that in all my posts, I'm directly attacking the EXP gain per match.

And yes, I completely disagree that Barbara and Lamar, the base characters, are stuck in a 125-level wall, when this should be exclusively for Skins.
Don't you agree? So, increase the pass level to 1000 and make absolutely all the base characters unlockable by leveling as well. Why not do it that way?

I'll explain, due to a lack of content, in the expansion of the 50 extra levels after the 100-level cap, they made the unfortunate decision to make the base characters unlockable.

Do you want another example? Party Animals is a game about humanoid animals that fight. Do you know what other franchise has a very famous character like that? Kung Fu Panda.
Now, Panda is extremely popular? Yes, he's at level 125, a huge achievement for players who put in the effort?
No... I bought him yesterday for a few bucks, isn't that counterintuitive?

Why put Barbara and Lamar through this exhausting 125-level wall?

And guys, my god, you take this subject so sentimental that it's almost unnecessary. Please don't give me moral mottos about real life, about people who put in the effort, etc., etc., or about old games like the PS1 era that didn't even have teams focused on user experience.

It's 2025, grinding should be completely optional.

Want a hard-to-achieve reward that will boost your ego when you finally get there? Great, make exclusive and super cool skins. Don't make base characters unlockable, while others just need to insert a damn credit card.

Hey buddy
M4Y4D3R3 if I offended you personally, I apologize, but I don't know if you know, but joining this thread and trying to argue against a simple request for user experience improvements isn't mandatory.

You can keep your point to yourself, since none of your arguments have actually contradicted mine so far. You're arguing with me as a person, not against the solutions I'm proposing here.

It just seems like you're a hatter who's looking for a needle in a haystack
to try to contradict everything I'm saying here.

Everything I'm proposing doesn't affect you AT ALL.
New players having a less punishing journey when leveling up shouldn't bother you like that. And I'll say more.
At no point do I want EXP to be zero-effort, like an elevator to the top, as the friend mentioned. I'm talking about improving the quality of EXP gain.

ToastySTENCH

Sotcliff Please don't give me moral mottos about real life, about people who put in the effort, etc., etc., or about old games like the PS1 era that didn't even have teams focused on user experience.

With all due respect, I feel this doesn't really counter my points. But I do understand your complaint is aimed at having base characters behind a level up wall. So I'll see it through a lens of not the difficulty of the leveling up, but rather the fact that there are characters behind this wall.

A couple things, and It's been stated you are new to this game and its community. The capybara was not an original character. It was added in several months, possibly a year or more after the games release. So my point is, is that they just, perhaps with haste, found a spot to fit the capybara in the game. I don't think it'sas malicious as your thinking it is. Another thing to note, and I acknowledge this might contradict my first point, is that this game actually has quite a bit of exclusive base characters that you cannot get again unless they announce a re-release of these characters. It does suck to be on the other side of this but it does give players the ability and the feel of yaving unique characters and skins as a reward for their loyalty and consistency for playing the game, but these are only rewarded during special events such as christmas, or more specifically for base characters, the cats and dog event. It does Sock as I am also missing base characters that I would love to have. I know within battle passes you are able to buy your way up into progression so an alternative to my idea of proposition that I supplied you with that could also be considered.

Also, I'm a bit disheartened to see that you did not respond to my well thought out suggestions laced with empathy and realism towards you. Given my insanely busy schedule, it is a testament that it is possible and I cannot fully agree that it's too grindy. Especially because, my point being, you and I were raised on games that were just as challenging or even more so. I would like your thoughts on it. I play for maybe about an hour and a half to 2 hours for maybe three to four days a week when I'm at work and maybe a solid 5 hours at night for two of the night of which I have my week off. If you're willing, I would like to hear your schedule and consistency on playing the game. Because if it's only 2 hours a week or so, it is going to take a while and I don't think they should make it that easy.

Again, I highly encourage you to start a thread as a petition, respectfully give the development team ideas such as being able to use Nemo bucks to bypass progression, or compose another idea of instead of unlocking specific base characters, you unlock the ability at those intervals to pick a base character to unlock. I would also suggest maybe putting in there a proposal to have double XP weekends or something as well.

These are all great ideas that I think should warrant at least some sort of consideration on your behalf, instead of only engaging with the members of this forum with a arguementive tone. Perhaps I'm biased but I feel like my suggestions have been very constructive and are more promising of reaping the change in which you seek. I guess what I'm getting at is I want to hear your feedback on this.

As for the morals comment, I just strongly disagree that having things extremely easy to achieve in this game. The game modes alone are only engaging and incentivize players so much. To have a far reaching goal gives players incentive to work towards it. Ive played this game a lot, and this is the first time I've heard this complaint.

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